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WSJ gives Barr an oped on justices

July 17th, 2008, 3:27 pm by by Alan Bock, Register editorial writer

I’m a bit surprised and quite fascinated that the Wall Street Journal gave Libertarian Party candidate Bob Barr a spot on its oped page to make the argument that worrying about Supreme Court justices is not a good reason to vote for John McCain. He actually makes a case that McCain is no judicial conservative, that Republicans have put some of the most liberal justices on the court (Souter, Stevens, Warren) and that McCain would have a vested interest in a justice who wouldn’t invalidate his campaign “reform” legislation which Roberts/Alito think is unconstitutional. Furthermore, the three justices most likely to die or retire are all liberals, which means having Obama appoint their successors wouldn’t change the balance of the court.

This kind of play, combined with news that at least at this stage Barr is polling better than any LP previous candidate in a variety of states, suggests that it was a good idea to nominate a well-known politician, even if some LP members had concerns about his record and his sincerity. Of course it’s a long time until November, and in close races the actual votes cast for third-party candidates tends to decline.

Ron Paul’s DC rally

July 15th, 2008, 12:03 pm by by Alan Bock, Register editorial writer

Reason’s Dave Weigel attended the Ron Paul “revolution” rally in D.C. on Saturday and delivered this report. It’s the last Paul event (except for Ron’s birthday August 20) before the St. Paul GOP convention, where there will be a significant Paul presence and even something of a counter-convention. As might be expected at an outdoor rally, this one — crowd estimates ranged from 3,000 to 8,000 — attracted many of what might be called fringe elements, even by libertarian standards. The comments section shows that there are still a lot of people whose method of discourse is the cheap insult, but that’s hardly news. Bob Barr wasn’t there (had committed to the FreedomFest in Las Vegas the same weekend) but Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution Party showed up and gave a speech. If Weigel’s report is accurate, the rally (not put on by the official Paul campaign) was heavy on the populist aspect of the freedom movement, with some emphasis on opposition to illegal immigration and free trade, which is not really Ron Paul’s message, and hardly the side of the movement that appeals to me. But it looks as if it was kinda fun anyway.

Bob Barr still polling well

July 14th, 2008, 4:21 pm by by Alan Bock, Register editorial writer

It’s early in the game yet, but I don’t think any Libertarian Party candidate has polled as strongly as Bob Barr is doing at this point or any point in the election cycle. As reported on Lew Rockwell’s blog, here are some of his numbers in individual states:

New Hampshire: 10%; California: 5%; New Mexico (swing state): 9%; Georgia: 8%; Ohio (big swing state): 7%; Massachusetts(!): 5%; Nevada: 9%; Michigan: 6%.

The GOP should be worried, but apparently it isn’t.

GOP not geared to challenge Libertarian ballot status

July 9th, 2008, 4:20 pm by by Alan Bock, Register editorial writer

If the official Republican Party is worried about Libertarian Party candidate Bob Barr siphoning off enough votes in key states to deny John McCain the presidency, it’s not acting like it. When questioned about whether the party plans to challenge LP ballot access in key states, party officals expressed no particular interest. This is in contrast to 2004, when the Democrats worked hard to keep that rascal Ralph Nader off as many state ballots as it could. It’s possible thre GOP may be underestimating the potential danger Bob Barr poses, but at this point they don’t seem especially worried. Right now the LP is on the ballot in 31 states and expects to be on 48 state ballots by November.

Barr gets 6% in Zogby poll

July 7th, 2008, 11:16 am by by Alan Bock, Register editorial writer

In the latest nationwide Zogby poll (with Zogby bragging how accurate this polling method was before the 2006 elections), Obama leads McCain 44-38. The interesting thing is that Libertarian Party candidate Bob Barr polls at 6 percent nationwide; Ralph Nader gets 2. This would be far and away the largest percentage for a candidate in LP history if it holds, which I don’t expect it will. As an election gets nearer, particularly if it appears likely to be close, people tend to return to the major parties. But the conservative “base” seems still somewhat disenchanted with McCain, so Barr might just surprise us.

Zogby also does an Electoral College calculation, which shows Obama with 273 votes — 270 needed to win — already. 

American-Independent split

July 2nd, 2008, 12:12 pm by by Alan Bock, Register editorial writer

I talked yesterday with my old friend Mark Seidenberg, who is currently vice chairman of the California American Independent Party, and he told me a tale of intrigue about splits and splinters in what is already a splinter party (although Mark tells me there are around 335,000 people registered AIP in California).

Anyway, the California AIP has for some time been affiliated with the Constitution Party, run by old-line insurgent conservative (he was almost a major figure during the Nixon administration but became disenchanted with everything Establishment, as he explained to me when I met him in Washington after he resigned) Howard Phillips. The Constitution Party’s presidential candidate is Florida preacher Chuck Baldwin.

According to Mark, much of the California AIP has gotten tired of Howie’s high-handed ways and decided to change affiliations — thus at the AIP’s state convention in Sacramento this weekend, the organization will vote to affiliate itself nationally with a new outfit called America’s Indpendent Party, put together by Alan Keyes and, naturally, putting forward Keyes as presidential candidate. Presumably, this would give Keyes a place on the California ballot.

Before this divorce, however, 9 of the 23 AIP officers who wanted to stay affiliated with the Howie Phillips group held a rump convention and endorsed Chuck Baldwin as president. But Mark claims that since California law and the bylaws require either the chairman or vice chairman to chair a convention, the action has no legal validity. He spent the weekend hanging in the lobby of a LAX-area hotel monitoring what the rumpers were doing.

Not that this is likely to have any impact on who gets California’s electoral votes, but it could have an impact on Howie Phillips’ career, such as it has become. 

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Bob Barr gets a little play

June 30th, 2008, 4:16 pm by by Alan Bock, Register editorial writer

Libertarian Party candidate Bob Barr managed a little airtime and a little ink this weekend. Appearing on Fox News Sunday, he said the Republican Party is about played out – “they talk one thing and do another” and McCain is emblematic of the problems with the GOP brand. The NYT also did a piece noting that all — well, a lot — of Barr’s old Republican friends in Congress and Washington tried urgently to talk him out of running as a Libertarian, stressing his potential to hurt John McCain’s chances. But hurting John McCain’s chances seems to be what Bob Barr wants to do this year. His chances of doing so, however, depend to a great extent on his ability to raise money, and so far that’s not going all that well. Ron Paul raised oodles of money, so a libertarian candidate certainly has that potential. But so far Bob Barr hasn’t struck the necessary sparks.

Another poll shows big Obama lead

June 25th, 2008, 3:51 pm by by Alan Bock, Register editorial writer

Last week it was the Newsweek poll. This week the Bloomberg/LA Times poll shows Barack Obama with a 15-point lead over John McCain when the two major-minor party candidates are thrown in — 48-33, with Bob Barr and Ralph Nader together getting 7 percent. McCain still has a lead on coping with terrorism, but Obama has an edge on most domestic issues.

It should be remembered, of course, that presidents aren’t elected through a straight popular vote, but by electoral votes state-by-state. Even here, however, Obama may be pulling ahead more than might have been expected. He’s appearing in Las Vegas and his campaign is declaring that he plans to contest the Mountain states that have routinely gone for Republicans in recent years. He has the money to do it.

Bob Barr blasts McCain

June 19th, 2008, 1:09 pm by by Alan Bock, Register editorial writer

With his support among the conservative GOP “base” still a bit shaky, McCain seems to be the major target of Libertarian Party candidate (and former GOP congresscritter) Bob Barr. In a WaPo interview, Barr spent most of his time criticizing John McCain, on the Iraq war, his energy policies and the assertion that “Sen. McCain really has put forward nothing that would indicate he believes in dramatically shrinking the size and cost of government.” (Actually that’s putting it mildly. McCain has been good on earmarks, but they’re a teeny slice of the federal budget, and McCain doesn’t seem interested in cutting anything else.)

Anyway, Barr thinks he might be able to do as well as Ron Paul did (8-15%) in Pa., North Carolina, West Virginia and Indiana, get some votes in western and some northeastern states, and do much better than the 1-percent-or-less Libertarian candidates usually get. I wish him luck, but I’m skeptical.

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June 5th, 2008, 12:43 pm by by Alan Bock, Register editorial writer

The Libertarian Party obviously chose former Georgia Republican Rep. Bob Barr as its presidential candidate based on the hope that as somebody who already had a certain amount of political name recognition (in contrast to most LP candidates), he might pull enough votes to make the LP a spoiler or a deciding factor in some states.  Given that McCain still has some troubles with the conservative “base,” this could be significant this year.

I’ve heard from LP members who are disgruntled by the choice and believe Barr isn’t a true-enough libertarian to represent the party, but for whatever reasons it’s decided to try a little more ostensibly pragmatic route than in the past. (I also heard about one quite young libertarian whose attendance at the LP convention was his first immersion into the libertarian movement at the national level who called a friend and said, “I hate our side; they’re all creeps.”)

Anyway, there’s some early evidence that Barr could play a spoiler role. Surveys in North Carolina and Georgia, generally safe Republican states, show Barr pulling 6 percent and 8 percent respectively. In neither state does that give Obama a majority or plurality, but it puts him within striking distance. Together North Carolina and Georgia have more electoral votes than Florida, Pennsylvania or Ohio.

However, it’s still a long time ’til November, and in close elections at the national level — even when their state is lopsided one way or another — voters tend to stay away from third parties.